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		<title>By: Jacksdaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacksdaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Margery,

I enjoy reading your comments, and applaud your insight.

Most of you are aware that Little House was filmed in Simi Valley. But, did you know that POLTERGEIST was also filmed in Simi?

So, I guess if they build all of those beautiful homes on a Hot Spot, it will be the makings of yet another scary movie. But, this one will not be fiction.

Signed,
Hoping people will wake up in Simi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margery,</p>
<p>I enjoy reading your comments, and applaud your insight.</p>
<p>Most of you are aware that Little House was filmed in Simi Valley. But, did you know that POLTERGEIST was also filmed in Simi?</p>
<p>So, I guess if they build all of those beautiful homes on a Hot Spot, it will be the makings of yet another scary movie. But, this one will not be fiction.</p>
<p>Signed,<br />
Hoping people will wake up in Simi</p>
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		<title>By: Jacksdaughter</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/12/greenwashing-rocketdyne/#comment-239408</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacksdaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

Thank you for having the courage to tell the truth. 

I know for a fact this PR stuff has been going on even before Boeing inherited the mess.

Also, if any of you would like to take a tour up there, you can hear the lies up close and personal.

We who lived in Simi when the facts first came out received letters about a Class Action Lawsuit against Rocketdyne. And, there is illness still going on today.

Recently,the east Ventura County area has a very high rate of breast cancer per all of California. If that is not a red flag, I don&#039;t know what is.

Yep, they have cleaned up really good!!!!! So, where are all of these people who claim the government lies??? Where are all of these people who want the truth?????

WHY IS EVERYONE SILENT??????? Except for the few of us. Must be a reason, and I would guess it has to do with greed.

KEEP IT COMING MICHAEL........

JACKSDAUGHTER]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thank you for having the courage to tell the truth. </p>
<p>I know for a fact this PR stuff has been going on even before Boeing inherited the mess.</p>
<p>Also, if any of you would like to take a tour up there, you can hear the lies up close and personal.</p>
<p>We who lived in Simi when the facts first came out received letters about a Class Action Lawsuit against Rocketdyne. And, there is illness still going on today.</p>
<p>Recently,the east Ventura County area has a very high rate of breast cancer per all of California. If that is not a red flag, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>Yep, they have cleaned up really good!!!!! So, where are all of these people who claim the government lies??? Where are all of these people who want the truth?????</p>
<p>WHY IS EVERYONE SILENT??????? Except for the few of us. Must be a reason, and I would guess it has to do with greed.</p>
<p>KEEP IT COMING MICHAEL&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>JACKSDAUGHTER</p>
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		<title>By: SBLocal</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBLocal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

Thanks for the background on the Chumash involvement re: Santa Susana. As a Santa Barbara resident, I would gladly pay rent to the Coastal Chumash Band (sadly, not federally recognized) rather than the landlord I pay now. 

The scenario you present suggests that the property ought not belong to any interest that may be able to develop it in the future. My suggestion was based on the assumption that the Chumash Tribe would have an interest in acquiring land that contained extant cultural resources for ritual and preservation purposes only - not development (land in SB County with extant Chumash resources is mostly federally-owned and/or not for sale). I&#039;ve read of other tribes in California acquiring land for preservation/ritual purposes only.

[&lt;strong&gt;Michael Collins replies&lt;/strong&gt;: Whatever happens to the land ownership-wise, the real issue is cleanup. Boeing&#039;s actions would leave 98-99% of the pollutants at the site in place instead of remediating/excavating them, according to longtime cleanup Rocketdyne activists. If the Chumash acquire the NASA without cleanup to background, not only could the tribe be exposed to powerful pollutants, so would the people downhill of the lab on both sides in Los Angeles and Ventura counties. In perpetuity. This issue is &lt;em&gt;cleanup&lt;/em&gt;, not Native American rights of which we are strongly supportive.]

--SB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for the background on the Chumash involvement re: Santa Susana. As a Santa Barbara resident, I would gladly pay rent to the Coastal Chumash Band (sadly, not federally recognized) rather than the landlord I pay now. </p>
<p>The scenario you present suggests that the property ought not belong to any interest that may be able to develop it in the future. My suggestion was based on the assumption that the Chumash Tribe would have an interest in acquiring land that contained extant cultural resources for ritual and preservation purposes only &#8211; not development (land in SB County with extant Chumash resources is mostly federally-owned and/or not for sale). I&#8217;ve read of other tribes in California acquiring land for preservation/ritual purposes only.</p>
<p>[<strong>Michael Collins replies</strong>: Whatever happens to the land ownership-wise, the real issue is cleanup. Boeing's actions would leave 98-99% of the pollutants at the site in place instead of remediating/excavating them, according to longtime cleanup Rocketdyne activists. If the Chumash acquire the NASA without cleanup to background, not only could the tribe be exposed to powerful pollutants, so would the people downhill of the lab on both sides in Los Angeles and Ventura counties. In perpetuity. This issue is <em>cleanup</em>, not Native American rights of which we are strongly supportive.]</p>
<p>&#8211;SB</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/12/greenwashing-rocketdyne/#comment-239351</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Chase&lt;/strong&gt;: Thank you for addressing &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nature.com/news/japan-s-nuclear-crisis-fukushima-s-legacy-of-fear-1.10183#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nature&lt;/em&gt;‘s unnaturally erroneous tripe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. But if it were only tripe. The damage done to our collective understanding of the Fukushima meltdowns’ effects on the Japan, the Pacific and the rest of the world is incalculable considering it came from this illustrious publication. Hopefully, more incisive comments will appear in this piece to try to undo the damages of some of the worst “journalism” ever produced about the subject.

&lt;strong&gt;@SBLocal&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;em&gt;Your&lt;/em&gt; home in the Santa Barbara area is on stolen Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Mission Indians land according to the concept you present. Should you and your neighbors sign over your land to this band of Native Americans, the only federally-recognized tribe of Chumash? If your land was grossly contaminated, should it have to be brought back to normal background levels of contamination before you give the property to the tribe?

The Santa Barbara Chumash aren’t automatically entitled to the Ventura County lab land yet Chumash in the county certainly want the land. The Ventura County Board of Supervisors are concerned that the Chumash acquire the land and, because of Indian Nation sovereignty, not automatically be required to clean up the gross chemical (and some radiological) contamination on lab property owned by NASA.

&lt;em&gt;EnviroReporter.com&lt;/em&gt; has received documents of several efforts from the board that seek to require the land be cleaned up to background before any transfer. Otherwise, it is conceivable that these Native Americans could acquire the land and not remediate it and then build a casino on it. If that happens, it could be called &lt;em&gt;Hot Slots&lt;/em&gt;.

We will be covering this issue in detail, including interviewing the Chumash, as the Boeing Meltdown Makeover series continues. You are certainly welcome (and encouraged) to contact the Chumash and send them the paper&#039;s feature. It is likely that the tribe has seen the piece as the &lt;em&gt;Ventura County Reporter&lt;/em&gt; newspaper is distributed over most of the county.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Chase</strong>: Thank you for addressing <strong><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/japan-s-nuclear-crisis-fukushima-s-legacy-of-fear-1.10183#comments" rel="nofollow"><em>Nature</em>‘s unnaturally erroneous tripe</a></strong>. But if it were only tripe. The damage done to our collective understanding of the Fukushima meltdowns’ effects on the Japan, the Pacific and the rest of the world is incalculable considering it came from this illustrious publication. Hopefully, more incisive comments will appear in this piece to try to undo the damages of some of the worst “journalism” ever produced about the subject.</p>
<p><strong>@SBLocal</strong>: <em>Your</em> home in the Santa Barbara area is on stolen Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Mission Indians land according to the concept you present. Should you and your neighbors sign over your land to this band of Native Americans, the only federally-recognized tribe of Chumash? If your land was grossly contaminated, should it have to be brought back to normal background levels of contamination before you give the property to the tribe?</p>
<p>The Santa Barbara Chumash aren’t automatically entitled to the Ventura County lab land yet Chumash in the county certainly want the land. The Ventura County Board of Supervisors are concerned that the Chumash acquire the land and, because of Indian Nation sovereignty, not automatically be required to clean up the gross chemical (and some radiological) contamination on lab property owned by NASA.</p>
<p><em>EnviroReporter.com</em> has received documents of several efforts from the board that seek to require the land be cleaned up to background before any transfer. Otherwise, it is conceivable that these Native Americans could acquire the land and not remediate it and then build a casino on it. If that happens, it could be called <em>Hot Slots</em>.</p>
<p>We will be covering this issue in detail, including interviewing the Chumash, as the Boeing Meltdown Makeover series continues. You are certainly welcome (and encouraged) to contact the Chumash and send them the paper&#8217;s feature. It is likely that the tribe has seen the piece as the <em>Ventura County Reporter</em> newspaper is distributed over most of the county.</p>
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		<title>By: SBLocal</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/12/greenwashing-rocketdyne/#comment-239348</link>
		<dc:creator>SBLocal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

Congratulations on getting that article out to an important audience. Since there are Chumash cave paintings on the property involved, has there been any Chumash representation in the battle thus far? The Chumash Casino has generated a lot of revenue for the Santa Ynez Tribe and the Tribe is seeking to buy back its stolen lands. I wonder if tribal leaders would be interested in this if you personally emailed them the link to the VCR article? 

--SB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Congratulations on getting that article out to an important audience. Since there are Chumash cave paintings on the property involved, has there been any Chumash representation in the battle thus far? The Chumash Casino has generated a lot of revenue for the Santa Ynez Tribe and the Tribe is seeking to buy back its stolen lands. I wonder if tribal leaders would be interested in this if you personally emailed them the link to the VCR article? </p>
<p>&#8211;SB</p>
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		<title>By: Margery Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margery Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,
     After spending a large part of today trying to penetrate the impossible VC Reporter comment section without success, I am sending this to you instead, and hopefully, after one last attempt...in addition.


       It certainly seems that the Boeing Corporation can buy just about anything with enough of their big bucks, except possibly for stopping the problems and leaks currently grounding their Dreamliner.      Just wave the magic money wand, and the contaminated Santa Susana Field Laboratory will now become a lovely Park in which even your young ones can go hiking or climbing on the NASA test stands, while the adults explore all of the beautiful plantings and the Indian Caves.  
      Never mind all of the signed agreements to clean the Field Lab to background.   The AOC&#039;s can easily  be trashed by simply declaring that the 2800 acres is now clean, safe and healthy....$43,500,000 of the tax payers money having already been spent, or possibly wasted, for testing..so far. 
      And then, there are those profit hungry builders who have been trying for a very long time to get permission to build and sell a number of new homes in Runkle Canyon..... a huge and beautiful property that is right next door to the contaminated Field Lab.  And, if the homeowners  just sleep upstairs, they somehow will never get Cancer from all of those remaining radionuclides like Cesium 137 and Strontium 90, as well as all of the potentially intrusive toxic chemicals on the Field Lab next door, but hopefully not underneath their expensive homes.
      Yes, an expensive publicity campaign can be just like making a movie... lots of pretend.. But selling the Field Laboratory as being clean enough for an Open Space Park, in this case, clearly  involves selling the magic- believer right down the  (LA) river!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
     After spending a large part of today trying to penetrate the impossible VC Reporter comment section without success, I am sending this to you instead, and hopefully, after one last attempt&#8230;in addition.</p>
<p>       It certainly seems that the Boeing Corporation can buy just about anything with enough of their big bucks, except possibly for stopping the problems and leaks currently grounding their Dreamliner.      Just wave the magic money wand, and the contaminated Santa Susana Field Laboratory will now become a lovely Park in which even your young ones can go hiking or climbing on the NASA test stands, while the adults explore all of the beautiful plantings and the Indian Caves.<br />
      Never mind all of the signed agreements to clean the Field Lab to background.   The AOC&#8217;s can easily  be trashed by simply declaring that the 2800 acres is now clean, safe and healthy&#8230;.$43,500,000 of the tax payers money having already been spent, or possibly wasted, for testing..so far.<br />
      And then, there are those profit hungry builders who have been trying for a very long time to get permission to build and sell a number of new homes in Runkle Canyon&#8230;.. a huge and beautiful property that is right next door to the contaminated Field Lab.  And, if the homeowners  just sleep upstairs, they somehow will never get Cancer from all of those remaining radionuclides like Cesium 137 and Strontium 90, as well as all of the potentially intrusive toxic chemicals on the Field Lab next door, but hopefully not underneath their expensive homes.<br />
      Yes, an expensive publicity campaign can be just like making a movie&#8230; lots of pretend.. But selling the Field Laboratory as being clean enough for an Open Space Park, in this case, clearly  involves selling the magic- believer right down the  (LA) river!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ventura County Reporter&lt;/em&gt; newspaper feature story: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/?id=10524&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Greenwashing&quot; Rocketdyne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the first print coverage of Boeing&#039;s Meltdown Makeover. Paper is target of phony media campaign but turns the tables in this fast-moving piece with new information about Boeing&#039;s Gary Polakovic plan being implemented.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Ventura County Reporter</em> newspaper feature story: <a href="http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/?id=10524" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Greenwashing&#8221; Rocketdyne</a></strong> is the first print coverage of Boeing&#8217;s Meltdown Makeover. Paper is target of phony media campaign but turns the tables in this fast-moving piece with new information about Boeing&#8217;s Gary Polakovic plan being implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Klea</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/12/greenwashing-rocketdyne/#comment-223033</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Klea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These articles about the Rocketdyne cleanup show fine detailed journalism at its best.  Michael has been around long enough to understand what he is writing and knows the community well.  No one can detail the history of lies and deception like Michael.  Thanks Michael for all your hard and time consuming work. Those of us who have seen the human health effects know that even after a cleanup the &quot;Hill&quot; is no place to romp and picnic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These articles about the Rocketdyne cleanup show fine detailed journalism at its best.  Michael has been around long enough to understand what he is writing and knows the community well.  No one can detail the history of lies and deception like Michael.  Thanks Michael for all your hard and time consuming work. Those of us who have seen the human health effects know that even after a cleanup the &#8220;Hill&#8221; is no place to romp and picnic.</p>
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		<title>By: ann3</title>
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		<dc:creator>ann3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;grimy cornucopia of goo&quot; is the most interesting description of environmental pollution I&#039;ve ever read.

Thank you for another excellent investigative article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;grimy cornucopia of goo&#8221; is the most interesting description of environmental pollution I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
<p>Thank you for another excellent investigative article.</p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Greenwashing is PR spin to make places... not look so bad.&quot; - Collins

I believe it&#039;s possible that this same &#039;technique&#039; is being applied to the fullest extent, whatever that is, in Japan and worldwide with regards to Fukushima.  

I also noted when I went to the library this week, yes they still exist, and I looked at several books written on the subject of Nuclear Power. 

I noticed that 8 of 10 which I randomly selected were written by professional fiction writers. (?) Supposed technical information written in a storybook manner.  The way it was written was at times convincing.  I see how &#039;not knowing&#039; the &#039;other side&#039; of a topic can lead to mistakes.

I also noted when I visited the CNN website this week that since 311 they have done some kind of story regarding Fukushima every month, that is, up until July of 2012.  Since then there have been none. (zero) 

Just seems odd to me.  I&#039;m not really surprised, I know it&#039;s CNN, but still, one would think there would be something.  ;)

CNN search - nothing since July 2012:
http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=fukushima&amp;primaryType=video&amp;sortBy=date&amp;intl=false]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greenwashing is PR spin to make places&#8230; not look so bad.&#8221; &#8211; Collins</p>
<p>I believe it&#8217;s possible that this same &#8216;technique&#8217; is being applied to the fullest extent, whatever that is, in Japan and worldwide with regards to Fukushima.  </p>
<p>I also noted when I went to the library this week, yes they still exist, and I looked at several books written on the subject of Nuclear Power. </p>
<p>I noticed that 8 of 10 which I randomly selected were written by professional fiction writers. (?) Supposed technical information written in a storybook manner.  The way it was written was at times convincing.  I see how &#8216;not knowing&#8217; the &#8216;other side&#8217; of a topic can lead to mistakes.</p>
<p>I also noted when I visited the CNN website this week that since 311 they have done some kind of story regarding Fukushima every month, that is, up until July of 2012.  Since then there have been none. (zero) </p>
<p>Just seems odd to me.  I&#8217;m not really surprised, I know it&#8217;s CNN, but still, one would think there would be something.  <img src='http://www.enviroreporter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>CNN search &#8211; nothing since July 2012:<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=fukushima&#038;primaryType=video&#038;sortBy=date&#038;intl=false" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=fukushima&#038;primaryType=video&#038;sortBy=date&#038;intl=false</a></p>
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