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		<title>By: Tami H</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2009/09/rileys-revenge/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Tami H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work for Norman Riley. He was an upstanding manager who was passionate about his work and the environment. He took his position seriously and didn&#039;t use it as a political bargaining chip. He was knowledgeable, responsible and one of the most dedicated people I have had the pleasure to work for.

He was also extremely loyal. He wasn&#039;t just loyal to the people who worked for him, he was loyal to the people above him because he believed in the basic integrity of those driving DTSC. It&#039;s his faith in people and his dedication to the environment which has earned him loyalty.

I think it was his belief that if he protected the environment as far as the letter of the law would allow him, there would be requisite loyalty and support from his superiors. This would seem a fair and equitable return for someone who has dedicated 25 years to protecting human life. If Mr. Riley made a mistake, it was in that he believed that his superiors would be as loyal to him as he has been to them and to the environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work for Norman Riley. He was an upstanding manager who was passionate about his work and the environment. He took his position seriously and didn&#8217;t use it as a political bargaining chip. He was knowledgeable, responsible and one of the most dedicated people I have had the pleasure to work for.</p>
<p>He was also extremely loyal. He wasn&#8217;t just loyal to the people who worked for him, he was loyal to the people above him because he believed in the basic integrity of those driving DTSC. It&#8217;s his faith in people and his dedication to the environment which has earned him loyalty.</p>
<p>I think it was his belief that if he protected the environment as far as the letter of the law would allow him, there would be requisite loyalty and support from his superiors. This would seem a fair and equitable return for someone who has dedicated 25 years to protecting human life. If Mr. Riley made a mistake, it was in that he believed that his superiors would be as loyal to him as he has been to them and to the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: KeenObserver</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2009/09/rileys-revenge/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>KeenObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People in glass houses shouldn&#039;t throw stones&quot;, a saying so very relevant here with certain community members.  A paragraph removed is an indication of truth being far too painful to bear, the truth being certain problem activists who strive to alienate instead of uniting VOLUNTEERS.  That is all we are: VOLUNTEERS with no secret agenda, no secret meetings with DTSC and other regulators, no secret visits to Boeing/NASA/DOE, no private sidebar discussions, no hoarding of public documents and files and emails, and no &#039;group-think&#039; goal of having newcomers only following your agenda and doing only what is important to YOU else be marked as disloyal then ostracized and dictated to a &quot;my house my rules&quot; credo at public gatherings -- such arrogance.  If this problem is to not continue another 15 years, certain activists need to go the way of Mr. Riley and leave.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People in glass houses shouldn&#8217;t throw stones&#8221;, a saying so very relevant here with certain community members.  A paragraph removed is an indication of truth being far too painful to bear, the truth being certain problem activists who strive to alienate instead of uniting VOLUNTEERS.  That is all we are: VOLUNTEERS with no secret agenda, no secret meetings with DTSC and other regulators, no secret visits to Boeing/NASA/DOE, no private sidebar discussions, no hoarding of public documents and files and emails, and no &#8216;group-think&#8217; goal of having newcomers only following your agenda and doing only what is important to YOU else be marked as disloyal then ostracized and dictated to a &#8220;my house my rules&#8221; credo at public gatherings &#8212; such arrogance.  If this problem is to not continue another 15 years, certain activists need to go the way of Mr. Riley and leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Klea</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2009/09/rileys-revenge/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Klea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all has to stop.  The rumors, backstabing mass forwarding emails, everyone in a frenzy of distrust.  It is time that everyone calms down, figures out who our project leader is and let him prove himself worthy of our respect. No one can win this war with the troops so divided.  Everyone is either a part of the solution or a part of the problem.  Please, I can&#039;t take another 15 years of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all has to stop.  The rumors, backstabing mass forwarding emails, everyone in a frenzy of distrust.  It is time that everyone calms down, figures out who our project leader is and let him prove himself worthy of our respect. No one can win this war with the troops so divided.  Everyone is either a part of the solution or a part of the problem.  Please, I can&#8217;t take another 15 years of this.</p>
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		<title>By: KeenObserver</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2009/09/rileys-revenge/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>KeenObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad he is bye-bye.  Too much cover-up.  If you think comments were left out here at Runkle, think about similar offsite locales like Dayton Canyon (Riley&#039;s led DTSC team fails to reply to comments by the public just like here at Runkle times many instances).  Indeed, the Chatsworth Reservoir is also ignored by Mr. Riley, and that place is highly contaminated; Woosley Creek, Bell Creek, Las Virgenes Creek, Chesebro Creek, Palo Comado Creek, Black Canyon, and et al -- all tainted by Rocketdyne industrial wastes and Mr. Riley arrogantly blows them off as if Mother Nature does not exist.  Not to mention the Calabasas Landfill with its beta radiation higher on the Rockedyne side and the secret backroad from the SSFL used to dump radioactive wastes under the cloak of darkness -- HELLO !  DTSC, where are you ?!

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     Mr. Hirsch is no angel either, let&#039;s be honest.  In collusion with DTSC and especially past inept-minded regulators, it is Hirsch who intentionally covers up atrocities of the Ventura County permitting process that encouraged the contamination from onset way back in the 1940s and 1950s (and on through present day: hint, Google up &quot;Ventura County Burn Days at SSFL Burn Pits&quot; and read the SAIC 1991 document).  Without such permits and other permitting filings, there would not have been any polluter, any radiation, any TCDD Dioxin, any chemical contamination.  Hirsch also sides with the City of Los Angeles in their cover-up of the poisoned Department of Water and Power Chatsworth Reservoir as well as the County of LA for its role in permitting contamination to be trucked and spilled within its boundaries.  Decision makers make decisions.  And some cities and both counties are culpable participants in this mess, whether or not Dan Hirsch likes it or not.

     The friend of your enemy is your enemy.  For Pete&#039;s sake, the polluter here would use its own employees to test poisons on, and then publish the results in medical journals stating said poison is safe (unbeknownst to the reader is the extremely minute amount of toxin administered to the human-guinea-pig-Boeing-employee over several days).

     If the parties involved at present and above would have chosen to live a clean life, there would be no unearthly delay in the cleanup.  I challenge you, special reader, to see through the fog and do what is right.  If something does not seem right, it usually isn&#039;t.  Attend meetings when you can.  Stand up, speak robustly, and question ignorance.  The upcoming new California Administration is going to need your record to learn from in quick time, so please comment when commenting is solicited.  And, by all means, THINK INDEPENDENTLY, else be one of the sheep being led to slaughter.  Please read below;
    
     Quoted from &quot;A Treatise on Military Weapons Containing the Radioactive Material: Depleted Uranium&quot;, by Lynnie Howe:  

&quot;Atomic secrecy has corrupted American democracy. And the rationale for this corroding secrecy has always been national security, the need to keep powerful information from falling into the hands of the current US enemy. Nuclear scientists even today regard the Q security clearance as a badge of honor, even while it signifies a determination not to spill the truth.

But now secrecy has mutated into an instrument of self-preservation not for the security of the nation but for the profits of the nuclear industry. The [keeping] of secrets has evolved into the telling of lies. And the deception is being perpetrated not on the enemies of the US but on its tax-paying citizens, whose contributions finance US atomic atrocities and line the coffers of nuclear profiteers.

The reason for this secrecy and deception has also changed. The nuclear industry&#039;s greatest fear is no longer of an &quot;enemy&#039;; It fears instead that the truth about the environmental and health effects of radiation, if fully conveyed to the American people, will result in the collapse of the nuclear industry with its obscene profits.&quot;

Again, please put thinking cap on and be independent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad he is bye-bye.  Too much cover-up.  If you think comments were left out here at Runkle, think about similar offsite locales like Dayton Canyon (Riley&#8217;s led DTSC team fails to reply to comments by the public just like here at Runkle times many instances).  Indeed, the Chatsworth Reservoir is also ignored by Mr. Riley, and that place is highly contaminated; Woosley Creek, Bell Creek, Las Virgenes Creek, Chesebro Creek, Palo Comado Creek, Black Canyon, and et al &#8212; all tainted by Rocketdyne industrial wastes and Mr. Riley arrogantly blows them off as if Mother Nature does not exist.  Not to mention the Calabasas Landfill with its beta radiation higher on the Rockedyne side and the secret backroad from the SSFL used to dump radioactive wastes under the cloak of darkness &#8212; HELLO !  DTSC, where are you ?!</p>
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<p>     Mr. Hirsch is no angel either, let&#8217;s be honest.  In collusion with DTSC and especially past inept-minded regulators, it is Hirsch who intentionally covers up atrocities of the Ventura County permitting process that encouraged the contamination from onset way back in the 1940s and 1950s (and on through present day: hint, Google up &#8220;Ventura County Burn Days at SSFL Burn Pits&#8221; and read the SAIC 1991 document).  Without such permits and other permitting filings, there would not have been any polluter, any radiation, any TCDD Dioxin, any chemical contamination.  Hirsch also sides with the City of Los Angeles in their cover-up of the poisoned Department of Water and Power Chatsworth Reservoir as well as the County of LA for its role in permitting contamination to be trucked and spilled within its boundaries.  Decision makers make decisions.  And some cities and both counties are culpable participants in this mess, whether or not Dan Hirsch likes it or not.</p>
<p>     The friend of your enemy is your enemy.  For Pete&#8217;s sake, the polluter here would use its own employees to test poisons on, and then publish the results in medical journals stating said poison is safe (unbeknownst to the reader is the extremely minute amount of toxin administered to the human-guinea-pig-Boeing-employee over several days).</p>
<p>     If the parties involved at present and above would have chosen to live a clean life, there would be no unearthly delay in the cleanup.  I challenge you, special reader, to see through the fog and do what is right.  If something does not seem right, it usually isn&#8217;t.  Attend meetings when you can.  Stand up, speak robustly, and question ignorance.  The upcoming new California Administration is going to need your record to learn from in quick time, so please comment when commenting is solicited.  And, by all means, THINK INDEPENDENTLY, else be one of the sheep being led to slaughter.  Please read below;</p>
<p>     Quoted from &#8220;A Treatise on Military Weapons Containing the Radioactive Material: Depleted Uranium&#8221;, by Lynnie Howe:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Atomic secrecy has corrupted American democracy. And the rationale for this corroding secrecy has always been national security, the need to keep powerful information from falling into the hands of the current US enemy. Nuclear scientists even today regard the Q security clearance as a badge of honor, even while it signifies a determination not to spill the truth.</p>
<p>But now secrecy has mutated into an instrument of self-preservation not for the security of the nation but for the profits of the nuclear industry. The [keeping] of secrets has evolved into the telling of lies. And the deception is being perpetrated not on the enemies of the US but on its tax-paying citizens, whose contributions finance US atomic atrocities and line the coffers of nuclear profiteers.</p>
<p>The reason for this secrecy and deception has also changed. The nuclear industry&#8217;s greatest fear is no longer of an &#8220;enemy&#8217;; It fears instead that the truth about the environmental and health effects of radiation, if fully conveyed to the American people, will result in the collapse of the nuclear industry with its obscene profits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, please put thinking cap on and be independent.</p>
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		<title>By: Margery Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2009/09/rileys-revenge/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Margery Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No John, it would make a GRAND OPERA, with Norm singing the role of the canary in the coal mine. Apparently an explosion is imminent!</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.enviroreporter.com/2009/09/rileys-revenge/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be such grand theatre if it weren&#039;t for the fact it&#039;s so damn tragic.</description>
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